Five minutes with…Lisa McCullough, ICON Preventive Conservation Fellow, The National Trust

What’s your background in heritage science?

From the outset my background has been a mix between science and heritage/archaeology. I have a BSc in Archaeological and Forensic Sciences from Bournemouth University and a MRes in Heritage Science from UCL. I am currently developing my skill set further by working in a training capacity for the National Trust, as a Preventive Conservation Fellow. This position is co-ordinated by the Institute of Conservation and funded by the National Trust.

What’s you role at the National Trust?

My role is a training position based within the National Specialists section, which as you can guess from the name means I am in a very good position to learn a great deal from specialists in conservation and curatorship. I mainly focus on the environmental aspect of preventive conservation which involves using scientific techniques to monitor the relative humidity, temperature, light as well as pests in many of the National Trust properties. This monitoring, along with specific research projects then develops to inform and provide solutions which promote the care of our collections and prolong their life while still allowing them to be displayed to the public.

Baddesley Clinton UV
Monitoring light levels at Baddesley Clinton, where a removable pane of UV absorbing perspex has been fitted to reduce UV radiation. It doesn’t detract from the view of the stained glass and avoids the direct contact of adhesive UV films.


What’s been the most exciting/challenging thing you’ve worked on recently?

I am currently involved in a study to monitor colour change on a late 19th century tri-fold screen at Clandon Park which has historic photographs displayed within it.


Trifold screen
The 19th Century Tri-fold screen in the Library at Clandon Park with a variety of different photographic types (albumen, silver gelatine and platinum prints) and conditions


These photographs are a mixture of albumen, silver gelatine and platinum print, photographic processes developed in the latter half of the 19th Century. This is a long term project to determine why some of the photographs seem to be deteriorating at different rates – is it a natural deterioration due to the different processes used or are the environmental conditions such as light, also playing a part? A number of photographs were measured in exactly the same spot in 2013 and then again a year later to establish the amount of colour change experienced, the processing of the results is currently underway. This is exciting for me as I get to learn about historical photographic processes and I get to apply a scientific technique which will have a direct impact on the conservation management plan for this object.  I feel this is a perfect example of Heritage Science in action

Who inspires you?

I have a real admiration for those craftsmen of the past who had the skill and vision to create the amazing objects that myself and my colleagues work to conserve. The immense intricacy of these amazing collections becomes more and more apparent once you begin to analyse them. The best example of this was during my MRes research which involved the development of a non-destructive technique to predict the strength of wool yarns in historic tapestries.

Checking a blue wool dosimeter in a National Trust Property. The dosimeters are replaced annually and by analysing their colour change we can estimate the light levels that objects are exposed to.


I worked closely with Historic Royal Palaces science team, who funded my project, to investigate the Tudor tapestries  and I was constantly overwhelmed by the abilities of the weavers to work with such fine treads to create beautiful images on such a scale. What’s more, the fact that they are still hanging today is testament to the quality of the craftsmanship involved and one that should be celebrated and preserved.

What do you love most about your job?

I would say it is being able to help people. I get such satisfaction from answering a phone call from someone at a property and being able to advise them using my scientific knowledge to assess the issue objectively.

In a single sentence, tells what’s great about heritage science?

The ability to apply scientific techniques to real-life issues that really make a difference to how magnificent collections and buildings are preserved.